Members
Present: Guests:
Mark Agle Scott
Henry, Building Inspector
Dennis Brawdy Kristen
Haight, Town Engineer
Anthony Weiss Phil
Muck
Kevin O’Gorman Councilmen
Krycia , Walker & Vacco
Gerard Schwab Julie
Smolinski
Andrew Romanowski, Alternate Jake
Schneider, ICC Project
Excused: Brian
Louis
Juanita Majewski Don
Fregellette
Bill Zittel Lou
Ursitti
Absent: Ron
Zimmerman
M/M
Paul Schaeffer, Best Impressions
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Chairman Agle called the January 8th, 2004 Meeting
of the Eden Town Planning Board to order at 8:00 PM. Agle
requested a motion to approve the November 6th, 2003 minutes as written &
submitted, so moved by Gerard Schwab, seconded by Dennis Brawdy, carried all Ayes.
NEW & UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1.
Julie Smolinski: Purchase of Mroz property (19 acres zoned GB)
on N. Main Street/Shagagee Road. Hullabaloos would be behind the Napa Store
with access from Shadagee Road. The building would be 125’x60’ to utilize
7200 sq.ft. Future plans are to develop
some of the remaining acreage for possible office, store fronts, etc. Julie stated that Mr. Violanti still has an
interest in the Mroz lot along Main
Street.
Agle stated that at this time, there has not been a Minor subdivisions
application submitted; that would be a requirement for the subdivision and
subsequent purchase of this property.
Agle advised Julie to check into whether or not Erie County Sewer
intends to extend the mainline sewer to service this area; a private system
would be quite costly, check with your engineers if there is sufficient
property and soil types that would support a private system in the event that
the sewer district is not extended. The
Planning Board requirement would be:
a.
Minor Subdivision application – submitted by the
landowner, indicating what the phasing plan might be for that property.
b.
Site-plan submission:
get checklist from the Building Inspector.
c.
This area is zoned and your proposal is a permitted
use.
Kevin
O’Gorman was concerned about the driveway, emphasizing that an entrance from
Route 62 would be preferable. Kristen
Haight mentioned that a turn-around between Rt. 62 and Shadagee might be
necessary for fire access.
2.
Immaculate Conception Addition Site-Plan Review: Jake Schneider and Brian Louis. Chairman Agle stated that the revised
site-plan meets all the requirements that were requested from the November 6th
meeting. The Town Engineer will need to
sign-off on the Drainage Plan.
Schneider stated that the Town Highway Department addressed the problem
of the location of the fire hydrant – they relocated it to a more suitable
area. Regarding the parking – if both
facilities were utilized simultaneously 196 parking spots would be
necessary. Schneider stated that it
would be highly unlikely that simultaneous usage would occur; 138 10’x20’ spots
are paved and delineated.
Mr. Henry
stated that the setback dimensions are not indicated on the revised plan. That information needs to be indicated.
After
discussion, Chairman Agle motioned to approve the site plan as
submitted contingent upon final review and approval of the final Site and
Drainage Plan by the Town Engineer, and obtaining necessary building permits
from the Building Inspector, and declared a NEGATIVE DECLARATION on the EAF
under the SEQR, as there is no detrimental Environmental Impact due to this
addition, seconded by Kevin O’Gorman, carried all Ayes.
3.
Ron Zimmerman – Revised Site Plan, seeking a
revision of the site-plan approval amending the use of the property from a
restaurant to house the Tri-County Physical Therapy unit utilizing ½ of the
first floor, leaving the other ½ of the building
vacant at this time. After discussion,
it was determined that the parking is adequate, greenspace is adequate,
handicapped accessibility is necessary.
Zimmerman stated that some of the landscaping has been completed, more
to follow. Paving on the north side has
been completed. Berms have been set, but
1 is somewhat ineffective – it will be redesigned. Dry wells are in the back of the lot and
drainage is controlled. Chairman Agle
stated that the back lot will need to be a dustless surface. It is indicated as
asphalt millings on the cross section shown on the site plan with an oil and
chip seal on top, then stripped. The back portion of the lot could be stripped
at a future date, if and when the other ½ of the first floor is leased. O’Gorman commended Mr. Zimmerman for the fine
job restoring the burned out building and continued to state that there will be
less traffic in and out as the Physical Therapy office rather than as a
restaurant, Dennis Brawdy motioned to approve the revised site-plan
pending Scott Henry’s approval and any future tenancy for the vacant ½ of the
building would require subsequent approval and striping of the balance of the
parking lot, Chairman Agle seconded the motion, carried all Ayes. Agle instructed Zimmerman to follow-up
with Scott Henry.
4.
Chair recognized Supervisor Nellis who stated that
Mr. Zimmermans’ building is the cornerstone of two other moves and tenancies
within the Town. M/M Schaeffer plan to
move to the space vacated by Tri-County Physical Therapy and Legislator Jeanne
Chase plan to move their office into the vacated M/M Schaeffer building. Agle
thanked Supervisor Nellis and stated that the Board is aware of the
circumstances and time constraints of the interested parties and is ready to
hear M/M Schaeffers’ plan as well as that of Jeanne Chases’ office (Minikime Building). M/M. Schaeffer purchased the building
currently housing Tri-County Physical Therapy.
They plan to move their business “Best Impressions Sewing Center” into the
building when Tri-County vacates the premises and moves into Mr. Zimmerman’s
building. Schaeffer stated that at this
point, the only pending change is to remove a closet to enlarge an area for
classroom use. Schaeffer asked whether
he really needed a site-plan just to indicate the removal of a closet. Agle stated that under the current code, the
Planning Board has the prerogative to require a site-plan. Parking must be addressed, Agle requested to
know the maximum number of spaces for the business at any given time. Schaeffer stated 5-6 spaces would generally
be max. Henry stated that due to change of occupancy/change of use, there may
also be new building code requirements that need to be met; you may not feel
that you need to make changes but under the new building codes, you may be
required to do something to the building.
Under the umbrella of “Commercial” there are a variety of different
occupancy classifications and the codes states that when you cross over from
one to another, other requirements may apply.
Henry directed Schaeffer to seek professional guidance, either a
licensed architect or engineer, who will walk through the building and
determine whether or not it will require improvement. An entire section of the code is dedicated to
this type of change over. For example,
Mr. Zimmerman has changed from a retail-auto parts store/pizzeria to a
professional service on one side and restaurant on the other…that is a change
of occupancy. When there is a change
from retail to office or office to laundry mat, it is a change of occupancy and
specific code requirements apply.
O’Gorman asked if it is possible for Schaeffers to move in and then meet
the requirements of the code. Henry
stated that they could not move in without a Certificate of Occupancy, and a
C/O cannot be issued until the building meets the requirements. Agle stated that the code cannot be
compromised, but rather than hire a professional, could you (Henry) tell them
the issues that need to be addressed and allow them to comply or are you firm
on having the plan stamped by a professional.
Henry answered that he cannot perform a code review and instruct the changes, because that would require designing
changes into the building; I can only inspect the changes that are made that
have been directed by and engineer/architect.
Brawdy asked if the Planning Board could make a recommendation that
perhaps we grant a conditional certificate of occupancy and give a 6-month
completion deadline and address any shortfalls if they exist? Henry stated again that under the code, you
cannot occupy a building without a C/O and that is not under the jurisdiction
of the Planning Board. O’Gorman asked
about a conditional C/O? Henry stated
that there are provisions in the code for conditional C/O’s but they are set in
place for i.e: outside site work such as
grass planting, which in this area, cannot be performed in the winter months,
therefore the occupant would be granted a conditional C/O and would need to
plant the grass in the springtime.
This in no way can be related to the code requirements related to the
structure of the premises. Councilman
Walker asked if Henry could walk through and tell Schaeffer to do because he
does not want to make any changes. Henry
stated that it is not a matter of want, it could be a
matter of have to make changes to meet the code requirements. The applicant hires the architect to assess
the building, then tells the owner what needs to be done in order to apply for
a permit, my (Henry) job is to evaluate the plan, do the inspections and then
issue the C/O. But I am not a consultant
that goes out and assesses of inventories existing conditions, and gives the
applicant the plan. I only inspect the
changes. Henry stated the time constraints
that are placed on the owners involved in these contiguous moves were brought
to his attention only during this past week.
Had the interested parties come in sooner, could have directed them of
the procedure before this meeting, so that they could have started preparations
earlier. Agle motioned to
approve the (3) moves as proposed between the 3 buildings without the need to
submit an additional site-plan to the Planning Board provided that all the
properties meet the new sign ordinance for the Hamlet Overlay District, that
the parking that exists will support those uses as determined by the Planning
Board. Gerard Schwab seconded the motion, carried all Ayes.
Agle directed Mr. Schaeffer to deal with Henry regarding the building
permit issues and signage regulations. The Planning Board’s approval only
extends to the site, the use of the site and the existing building the
associated and parking; but in regard to structural and building code
requirements our approval does not apply; that requires the Building Inspectors
approval. Henry stated that when Mr. Schaeffer meets with his
architect/engineer at the site, with adequate notice, he would attend the
walk-through to speed things up. Kristen Haight told Mr. Schaeffer to call her
if he were interested in a list of former building inspector/code officials who
perform site reviews to determine whether a site is up to code or not. Chairman Agle asked Supervisor Nellis to pass
along the information regarding these moves to Jeanne Chase and or the owner of
the building – Dick Minekime.
5.
Vince Vacco – Pre-submission conference: Proposed Vacco’s Golf Driving Range. On Eden-Evans
Center Road (Derby
crossroad) on 38 acres of property.
Vacco submitted a rough drawing of a seasonal, spring through fall,
business. Vacco stated that the texture of the grounds will not be changed, it will
remain all grass, other than enhancing the driveway and proposed parking lot
which will be roughly 100’ x 100’ allowing parking for 20 cars. Existing trees will be left in place for
barriers to surrounding neighbors. Also,
10’ x 6’ berms are already in place and shrubbery has been planted on the
berms. Boundary line hedge rows have are
trees and heavy brush. The configuration of the range provides for ball driving
distance of over 300 yards to the nearest boundary lines. A 10’x10’ or 10’x15’ shed will be erected to
conduct business. A 2’x5’ sign will be
erected, which complies with the signage criteria for that area; A
“Johnny-on-the-Spot” will be utilized for convenience facilities. Agle stated that the use is a permitted use
within that zone and asked Henry to address the bulk requirements. Henry stated
that, an “Outdoor recreational facility” is a permitted use, and according to
this rough sketch, looks as though he meets the minimum requirements. The following are things to consider, under the
town code, Non-residential uses be screened from residential uses. Residential uses are to the south and east
and west, and the shrubbery is a good natural screening agent. Drainage is not an issue, a ditch is in
place along the road but rarely has any water in it and no run-off is going to
be created. Agle told Vacco that it is
a requirement to submit a site-plan drawn by a licensed
architect/engineer. The only other issue
under the code, it is still a requirement to have a dustless/delineated surface,
i.e. millings and stripe it or apply to the zoning board for a variance and ask
them to waive the requirement as you are 600’ from the road. Gravel is not considered a dustless surface,
but it can be grass as long as it maintains its delineation. Vacco was instructed by the Board to prepare
a site-plan before the next meeting, include all the information that you have
presented tonight and the Planning Board should be able to take action on that
plan.
6. The Town Board has requested a
recommendation on proposed Local Law 1-2004 regarding a vacant lot
between 2 houses. The owners wants to
build a house but it is zoned GB. Henry
explained that he received a phone call regarding a lot on George
Street that is zoned GB. There is a vacant lot sandwiched between 2
houses and there is not a provision in the code for a single family home. So absent getting a variance, he contacted
Supervisor Nellis, it was agreed that perhaps by Special Use Permit, rather
than by right, we could amend the code to allow a single family home to be
constructed in the GB zone by Special Use Permit by the Town Board. Agle stated that the likelihood of being able
to site a business sandwiched surrounded by residential properties. Gerard Schwab motioned that a
recommendation be made to the Town Board to favorably consider adopting Local
Law #1-2004, Dennis seconded the motion, carried all Ayes.
- Reappointments: Gerard Schwab motioned to
recommend to the Town Board to reappoint Kevin O’Gorman to another 7-year
term and Andrew Romanowski to his 1 year alternate member appointment,
seconded by Dennis Brawdy, carried all Ayes.
- Chairman Agle informed the Board that the Town
received a letter from Sam D’Augustino, attorney at law, representing his
client in requesting a waiver from the Town Board in reference to the
moratorium for issuing permits for telecommunication towers. His client wishes to co-locate, while
the moratorium is in effect. Agle
stated that it was his understanding that the moratorium only applied to
new tower applications and not to applications for co-location on existing
towers. Supervisor Nellis stated
that the Town Attorney, Bill Trask did review the moratorium and stated
that the moratorium applies to all applications, new or co-location
applications.
- Kristen Haight distributed new drafts of the Telecom
and Wind Energy codes.
Agle asked the all the Planning Board review submit written
comments to Cathy within 2 weeks so as to forward any changes to Drew for
revision so that by the February 5th meeting so that Board can
take action and submit the proposed new codes to the Town Board for their
Public Hearing to be held on February 11, 2004. Cathy’s e-mail address is Cathy @
EDENNY.ORG. Dennis suggested that
the Planning Board read thru the draft and submit in writing any ideas,
suggestions, changes; get them to Cathy to
forward to Mark. After Mark reads
through these comments, he will decide if a meeting should be held before
the next planning board meeting to finish up the proposed code prior to
the 2/5/04
meeting.
REPORTS:
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Chairman Agle informed the Board that the Association of
Towns Meeting will be held in NYC February 15-18th and that 2
members of the Board could attend; Chairman Agle and Dennis Brawdy both
expressed an interest in attending this conference.
Agle requested a
motion to adjourn at 9:30 PM, Kevin
moved, Gerard seconded, carried all Ayes.
Respectfully
Submitted
Catherine A. Swiech
The Next Meeting will be held on Thursday,
February 5th, 2004.